Don Posted July 13, 2022 Report Share Posted July 13, 2022 Starbucks Closing 16 Stores in High Crime Cities Los Angeles Times: Starbucks to close six Los Angeles stores, citing safety problems Starbucks plans to close six stores in Los Angeles and 10 other locations in other major cities because of what it says are safety issues including drug use and threatening behavior. The Associated Press and the Wall Street Journal reported that, in addition to the Los Angeles store closures, six stores in the company’s hometown of Seattle are slated to close along with two stores in Portland, Ore., and one each in Philadelphia and Washington, D.C. “After careful consideration, we are closing some stores in locations that have experienced a high volume of challenging incidents that make it unsafe to continue to operate, to open new locations with safer conditions,” Starbucks said in a statement to the Times. latimes.com/california/story/starbucks-to-close-six-los-angeles-stores-10-others-around-country-due-to-safety-issues WSJ: Starbucks Closing Some Stores, Citing Safety Concerns in Certain Cafes Coffee chain said it is permanently closing 16 cafes after workers reported drug use by members of the public and crime concerns wsj.com/articles/starbucks-closing-some-stores-citing-safety-concerns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonF Posted July 14, 2022 Report Share Posted July 14, 2022 safety concerns , like employees unionizing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted July 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2022 8 hours ago, DonF said: safety concerns , like employees unionizing Not quite accurate... Of the 16 Starbuck stores closing only one was unionized and it had other problems on top of the high crime and customer and employee safety issues, the one in Ithaca, NY. Most the other 241 Starbucks stores in NY, including several other unionized locations are not being closed. A store being closed in Portland had petitioned to unionize but it has also been vandalized multiple times during the Floyd protests and again most recently after the announcement of the Supreme Court overturning Roe -vs- Wade... The Oregonian: Marchers damage NE Portland businesses in post-Roe protest Dozens of black-clad marchers roamed through the streets of Northeast Portland late Saturday, heading from Grant Park to the Hollywood district and damaging businesses along the way. The “direct action” event was advertised as a response to the overturning of Roe v. Wade on Friday. “If abortions aren’t safe then you aren’t either,” read one flier announcing the march. Other businesses in the Hollywood area along Sandy Boulevard also were damaged, including a Starbucks and Bank of America. oregonlive.com/portland/2022/06/marchers-damage-ne-portland-businesses-in-post-roe-protest If I owned a store that tended to be targeted and vandalized repeatedly during "protests", I'd probably seriously consider closing it down also... USA Today: Starbucks closing 16 US stores because of repeated safety issues Two of the Seattle stores that are closing have voted to unionize, while one of the Portland stores has petitioned to hold a union vote. Last month, Starbucks also closed a unionized store in Ithaca, New York, because of operational problems, including an overflowing grease trap. Starbucks Workers United, the labor group organizing the effort, said it intends to file unfair labor practice charges against Starbucks on behalf of the two unionized stores that are closing in Seattle. But Starbucks insisted the closures weren't related to the unionization drive. "Opening and closing stores is part of our business operations," a spokesperson for the company said. "This is really rooted in safe and welcoming stores." U.S. labor law doesn't prevent Starbucks from closing its stores for business reasons. But it can't close a store — whether it's unionized or not — in retaliation against labor organizers. usatoday.com/story/money/food/2022/07/13/starbucks-closing-16-us-stores No doubt the false allegations of Starbucks being closed just because the stores are unionized will be challenged in court but since only one store is unionized and the other has multiple structural problems along with being repeatedly vandalized by "protesters" I suspect the claims of Starbucks closing stores because they're unionized will quietly fade away... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted October 15, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2022 FOX: Wawa shuttering two Philadelphia stores amid city's retail crime surge Retail theft is up more than 50% in Philadelphia "Despite reducing hours and investing in additional operational measures, continued safety and security challenges and business factors have made it increasingly difficult to remain open in these two locations," the company said in a statement on Thursday. "All associates from these two stores will be offered continued employment at Wawa." Wawa, which currently has 40 stores in Philadelphia, did not disclose a timeline for the closures. https://www.foxbusiness.com/retail/wawa-shuttering-two-philadelphia-stores-amid-citys-retail-crime-surge Aldi abruptly closed one of their Chicago grocery stores, partly due to crime... Walgreens has shuttered more than ten stores in San Francisco because of concerns over rising crime... Several downtown Seattle businesses are closing up shop due to a recent rash of violent crime... Small business owners in California say they've decided to Leave California Amid Ongoing Crime... We tend to see the same kind of reports all across the country... but most interestingly enough in so-called "Blue States" where Democrat Governors and progressive District Attorneys seem to be more concerned about the rights of the criminals being arrested, than the ordinary law abiding citizens they are supposed to be protecting. Yeah no false flag allegations of stores being shut down because of 'union busting', just the plain and simple facts... As crime increases in certain areas stores, businesses and even residents in those areas are leaving if they can. In October Tyson foods, one of Chicago's largest employers joined other large companies like Caterpillar, Boeing and Citadel who have announced they are leaving the city because of the increase in crime. Billionaire Ken Griffin, the CEO of the Citadel Investment Group announced earlier this year, "If people aren’t safe here, they’re not going to live here," Griffin told the Wall Street Journal in April. "I’ve had multiple colleagues mugged at gunpoint. I’ve had a colleague stabbed on the way to work. Countless issues of burglary. I mean, that’s a really difficult backdrop with which to draw talent to your city from." There is of course the fact that sometimes businesses just migrate due to location, lack of clientele or whatever but to have a mass exodus of businesses because of rising crime rates, particularly in areas that didn't previously have a lot of crime is something I don't recall happing a lot... until recently. Based on this information from worldpopulationreview.com, the ten most dangerous cities in the United States are: Detroit, MI Memphis, TN Birmingham, AL Baltimore, MD St. Louis, MO Kansas City, MO Cleveland, OH Little Rock, AR Milwaukee, WI Stockton, CA Interestingly enough, every one of the Top Ten Most Dangerous Cities of 2022 - have Democrat Mayors... Coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted October 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 CEO Davis Smith announced the closure of San Francisco's only store for the Cotopaxi clothing on social media... "It’s sad, but San Francisco appears to have descended into a city of chaos. Many streets and parks are overrun with drugs, criminals, and homelessness, and local leadership and law enforcement enable it through inaction. One of the most beautiful and amazing cities in the world is now a place where many no longer feel safe visiting or living. We opened a retail store a year ago on Hayes Street, the charming shopping district just blocks away from the famous Full House home. Our first week there, our windows were smashed and thousands of dollars of product was stolen. We replaced the window, and it immediately happened again (four times). We replaced with window with plywood as we waited for a month+ to get a metal security gate installed (demand for those gates is creating huge delays). As of today, we are closing the store due to rampant organized theft and lack of safety for our team." https://www.linkedin.com/posts/davismsmith_its-sad-but-san-francisco-appears-to-have-activity-6988177773722841088-Yd3Q https://abc7news.com/cotopaxi-san-francisco-founder-linkedin-hayes-valley-store-closing-ceo/12348846/ https://www.deseret.com/2022/10/19/23413253/organized-theft-san-francisco-cotopaxi-davis-smith-crime ""We started keeping the door locked and opening it only for customers, but even then, they’ll have a woman go to the door, and then hiding individuals rush into the store as soon as the door opens. Our team is terrified. They feel unsafe..." https://www.foxbusiness.com/small-business/ceo-blasts-san-francisco-city-chaos-closes-store-rampant-crime-our-team-terrified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonF Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 So you're trying to tell us the republicans did finally turn us into a third world nation ?? No you are just fear mongering as usual crimes are up because prices are up , prices are up because corporate greed is setting record profits that wont be taxed because of republican tax cuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted October 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 32 minutes ago, DonF said: So you're trying to tell us the republicans did finally turn us into a third world nation ?? No you are just fear mongering as usual crimes are up because prices are up , prices are up because corporate greed is setting record profits that wont be taxed because of republican tax cuts I'm not trying to tell anyone anything... What I am doing is clearly pointing out the fact that another business is leaving another crime ridden city, which has been in the hands of a liberal mayor/council and a "progressive" DA because as the business owner says... 4 hours ago, Don said: San Francisco appears to have descended into a city of chaos... where many no longer feel safe visiting or living... Our team is terrified. They feel unsafe..." No fluff, none of my personal commentary or opinions, just the simple facts and another business closing stores in high crime cities... more specifically because of the crimes, the inaction of the local government and the progressive policies of those who are supposed to keep the cities - and their citizens safe from criminals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonF Posted October 20, 2022 Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 Well heck we have businesses here going out of business too maybe coltons closed because of fear of violence , I remember when hardies left in fear so bad they just locked it up one night , oh that must have been what happened to long john silvers in town too , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted October 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, DonF said: Well heck we have businesses here going out of business too maybe coltons closed because of fear of violence , I remember when hardies left in fear so bad they just locked it up one night , oh that must have been what happened to long john silvers in town too , Nope when Colton's closed the owner also released a public statement saying they didn't have the customers they needed to stay open particularly through the pandemic... Hey... but nice attempt at another the hallmark misdirection, misinformation... and flat out falsehood... another failed attempt of course but as always, go with what you're good at. Umm perhaps I'm missing something but isn't Hardees still open in Pittsburg? Yes... yes I believe they are And Long John Silvers... yet another unfortunate Pandemic casualty, at least that's what one of the former employees told me... but as I recall from businesses who have quit Pittsburg, not one of them released a public statement saying they were closing because of "high crime in the city", questionable governance or prosecutorial practices and I don't believe any of them released a statement saying their customers and employees "were terrified and feel unsafe"... either. Completely different and unrelated circumstances that has nothing to do with this discussion except as another attempted at a diversion... but then you already knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonF Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 nothing false or misleading didnt say thats why they closed just that it could be its called supposition 90% of your posts are supposition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted October 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, DonF said: 90% of your posts are supposition I'm thinking it might be difficult to support the claim I'm posting supposition when I'm able to post videos, reference links and direct quotes from the people involved to back up what I've been posting... so the claim I've been posing 90% supposition would in and of itself be misdirection, misinformation... and possibly a flat out falsehood... We've got videos and news reports about some Starbucks locations being repeatedly vandalized, news articles about customers and staff being accosted and even attacked at these locations, homeless people congregating, defecating and using drugs near those places and leaving their paraphernalia littered about - then we have the Starbucks CEO putting out a public statement that the company will be closing locations in those documented high crime areas - because of the threat and harm to customers, staff and property. All of it thoroughly documented with irrefutable evidence, and then someone claims the Starbucks closings are really due to Starbucks union busting... all of those counter claims made without video, written or spoken substantiation and interestingly enough you contend the proven and well documented cases is "supposition"... but the claims you've made without anything to back them up are to be taken as true words? For months we've had many news reports and social media postings - many with actual video and witness statements about criminals going into stores, stealing massive amounts of none edible and non edible items off of shelves and walking out, sometimes threatening or assaulting customers or employees while doing so... Invariably someone tries to suggest: "there just hungry and getting food for their family"... well unless their family eats copper wire from Home Depot, Gucci purses from some upscale Hollywood boutique or jewelry from some Manhattan jewelry store, we all know those are illogical false statements. Some may try to explain away the criminality by unjustifiably claiming the crooks come from disadvantaged or oppressed backgrounds, which first is impossible to verify if the criminals are never confronted or caught and secondly there are a lot of disadvantaged and oppressed individuals out there and most of them don't turn to overt criminality because of their situation... But the folks attempting to defend or justify that kind of criminal behavior aren't being accused of supposition even though it's obviously the case unless the person making the comment is personally acquainted with the people engaged in criminal activity... Every day people are arrested and in turnstile fashion released from jail with little or no immediate consequences no bail and in some cases not even criminally charged, only wind up being rearrested. I figure (and yes this is supposition) they believed they got away with it one time - they figure they'll get away with it again should they be caught again... at least that seems entirely plausible to me. It is what it is... some people are going to continue to try to explain away ongoing criminal behavior as somehow justified while others are going to attempt to condemn it for what it is. Some people are going to pay attention to what employees and businesses say when they claim they don't feel safe and business locations should be closed down due to escalating and ongoing criminal activity - while others will attempt to try to find a way to blame the businesses. I don't post any of these stories to try to alter anyone's opinion or perception of reality... that would be an exercise in futility. What I do hope to accomplish is to help people be aware of what's actually going on as opposed to what some will deny is happening and use as many facts and references as I can find to allow people to make up their own minds on what's happening and why... and by just coincidence invariably expose those who seem to be peddling in their own supposition, with no evidence to support any of their claims - while accusing others of engaging in supposition, despite that side having actual proof and evidence to back up what's being said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonF Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 funny you have attempted to claim videos of trump saying things in his own words were fabricated you;ve tried in the past to pass off video of black hat anarchists as blm protestors , so your opinion is a bit more than suspect. actually your constant claims of left wing violence tend to mirror the propaganda used by the Nazis in their take over of Germany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Don Posted October 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 hours ago, DonF said: funny you have attempted to claim videos of trump saying things in his own words were fabricated Again... prove it. Show us a single instance where I responded to a video of Trump saying something and claimed his words were fabricated... of course it can't be done because the false claim I've done so is just another fantastic, unsupportable lie. I believe this is the third challenge in just about as many days for you to do so and still, nothing... I commented on protesters engaged in violence and destruction during the BLM/George Floyd protests. You posted about a single instance of the "umbrella guy", later identified as a white biker dude, dressed in black bloc, unaffiliated with the BLM protests breaking windows and claimed it was proof the violence and destruction was being carried out not by protesters, but by white supremacists... of course that claim would have to completely discount the photos and videos of actual protesters, many of them clearly identifiable, jumping up and down on police cars, looting destroyed shops, setting fires to buildings and trash in the streets. Accosting patrons at street side restaurants, etc. No just more ...not quite accurate... empty words and absolutely nothing to back them up - as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonF Posted October 25, 2022 Report Share Posted October 25, 2022 any one reading this forum knows its true Don youve done it so many times its undeniable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted November 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2022 On 10/24/2022 at 10:51 PM, DonF said: KATU ABC Local-Portland: Portland business permanently closes, citing concerns with crime https://twitter.com/RebsBrannon/status/1562124258200928256/photo/1 https://justthenews.com/podcasts/john-solomon-reports/job-creators-network-president-65-small-business-owners-cite-crime https://twitter.com/CrimeWatchMpls/status/1347562771177730049/photo/1 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-11/amazon-shuts-small-seattle-office-after-spate-of-crimes-in-area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonF Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 still with the fear mongering because thats all ya got lets look at some history of crime rates , they like economic down turns follow after republican policies the difference is republican policies cause a rise in crime rates and homelessness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted November 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 13 hours ago, DonF said: still with the fear mongering because thats all ya got lets look at some history of crime rates , they like economic down turns follow after republican policies the difference is republican policies cause a rise in crime rates and homelessness What you falsely refer to as fear mongering is in reality undeniably fact, straight from the mouths of the proprietors of closing businesses, national news networks and business experts... See that's just another aspect of WOKE progressives they take something that is irrefutable fact, supported by the words of respected sources and try to claim it is meaningless, just "fear mongering", not relevant, or false when it is demonstrably true and proven to be fact. Then they want to attempt to deflect from the relevant, current topic and just say they want to bring up past historical similarities.... which of course they never do, most likely because the references they claim to have at hand doesn't exist... another reoccurring aspect of WOKE progressives, claiming they've got some big "gotcha'" that for some reason, they never produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonF Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 No It is fear mongering and you do it cvonstantly because all you do is regurgitate right wing fear mongering propaganda OMG a crisis at the border illegals are coming to rape our women and turn all our kidfs into addicts and lets not forget murder us all. OMG Blacks are protesting the death of an unarmed black person, they are rioting send in the national guard they will burn down the towmn and rob from all the white folks , except as has been proven most of the damages were caused by white right wing instigators for feed the right wing propaganda BS they you continue to puke up . And here we have OMG rising crime is causing businesses to shut down in fear . Yeah well as I pointed out the rights policies are what has cause the economy to tank and people to become desperate , Id be willing to bet the truth is closer to the reason for these businesses shutting down is because they arent making the money they thought they would because of the economy. Adn what are the republicans really planning to do after screaming about inflation and the economy ? Do they talk about any plan at all ? No. Their only Plan for the next two years is to investigate hunter biden , nothing else no plan , just hunter biden and try to block anything to fix the economy or help the nation Dont get me wrong they will do everything they possibly can to keep attacking womens rights and of course try to do away with LGBT and minority rights , but they wont be doing anything productive and like you they will do as much fer mongering as they can because all they have to drive their simple minded base is fear , fear that maybe a gay or black might actually be treated as an equal to them and theres nothing weak minded white guys hate and fear more than having minorities considered equal to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted November 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 4 hours ago, DonF said: No It is fear mongering and you do it cvonstantly because all you do is regurgitate right wing fear mongering propaganda OMG a crisis at the border illegals are coming to rape our women and turn all our kidfs into addicts and lets not forget murder us all. OMG Blacks are protesting the death of an unarmed black person, they are rioting send in the national guard they will burn down the towmn and rob from all the white folks , except as has been proven most of the damages were caused by white right wing instigators for feed the right wing propaganda BS they you continue to puke up . And here we have OMG rising crime is causing businesses to shut down in fear . What you falsely refer to as "right wing fear mongering propaganda" is in fact statements from the business owners themselves telling the public they're closing their businesses because of rising crime... What you falsely refer to as "right wing fear mongering propaganda" is in fact statements from credible national news agencies telling the public about businesses closing because of spikes in crime, shootings, car-jackings and other types of attacks... Progressives can attempt to redefine something from what it actually is into something less, but "Just because someone calls a calf's tail a leg - doesn't make it so". Progressives can also attempt to insert false information in referencing what was previously said but the truth of what was actually said and what they falsely claim was said remains obvious, for instance - Yes there is a crisis at the southern border and illegals are crossing in record numbers, even DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas recently capitulated to the honesty of that with his admission the 'entire hemisphere is suffering a migration crisis'... "The entire hemisphere is suffering a migration crisis," Mayorkas responded to Sen. Rob Portman's (R-OH) question on whether the border was in crisis. "We are seeing an unprecedented movement of people from country to country. It is not restricted to the southern border." But no one said anything about them "coming to rape our women and turn all our kidfs into addicts and lets not forget murder us all"... that's a completely false statement that had to be thrown in to support the false allegation of fear mongering. Likewise no one said anything about: "Blacks are protesting the death of an unarmed black person, they are rioting send in the national guard they will burn down the towmn and rob from all the white folks"... that's another completely false statement that had to be included to support the false allegation of fear mongering. 4 hours ago, DonF said: except as has been proven most of the damages were caused by white right wing instigators for feed the right wing propaganda BS they you continue to puke up . It has been publicly acknowledged there was one case of a white person breaking out windows during the riots in Minnesota (umbrella man) who according to the latest information from the FBI, has never been able to identify, which makes the statement a white supremacist was responsible for damages during the George Floyd riots at best pure speculation and at worst a complete lie. October 2022 Umbrella Man mystery fuels conspiracy theories and blame Identified by name as a white supremacist in an early search warrant, now questions arise whether police suspected the wrong person The FBI is asking for help finding someone who provoked mystery and conspiracy theories for two years after the riots that followed the murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis. He's referred to as the "Umbrella Man," and some believe his actions helped set off the riots near the Minneapolis Police 3rd precinct building. One conspiracy, fueled by suspicious text messages shared online that the Umbrella Man was an off-duty Saint Paul police officer, gained so much traction that Saint Paul PD released surveillance video to prove that particular officer was at work that night. Then, in July 2020, a publicly-filed search warrant affidavit written by an MPD arson investigator named a suspect -- a member of the Hells Angels Motorcycle gang -- who was involved in an incident of alleged racist intimidation in Stillwater reported separately by KARE 11. The suspect's name came through an emailed tip, but that person was never charged. Now, more than two years after the fires, AutoZone has been rebuilt and the FBI is providing new photos asking for the public's help identifying the Umbrella Man. Specifically a photo of his shirt with a distinct logo on the front and his baseball cap with a green shamrock and the letters L - M - Co., which stands for Loser Machine Company, a skater apparel brand. The FBI is hoping someone who recognizes the hat or shirt can help put a name - and charges - to the Umbrella Man once and for all. https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/umbrella-man-mystery-fuels-conspiracy-theories-blame/ https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/minneapolis/news/press-releases/fbi-seeks-publics-help-in-identifying-umbrella-man The alleged "white supremacist" biker dude earlier identified as a possible suspect was interviewed and removed from the suspect list because there was no evidence the person turned in from an anonymous tip was involved, let alone even in Minneapolis at the time of the crime and certainly no proof he was wearing a baseball cap with a logo from a skateboard apparel company. Facts are facts and denying them, attempting to deflect the conversation away from them or repeatedly making false statements about them won't ever change the facts. But that's never stopped WOKE progressives from trotting out their lies, misrepresentations, attempt to deflect to unrelated topics, make fictional claims and hypocritical charges against others, so they keep doing what they do... lie, misrepresent, deflect, make fictional claims and try to accuse others of what they themselves are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted November 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 Portland Eater: Will Salt & Straw Leave Portland? Leadership at Portland’s most famous ice cream shop is considering moving its headquarters out of town. Kim Malek, the co-founder of ice cream company Salt & Straw, says the brand “can’t stay here” if the city’s issues with crime and violence continue, citing recent incidents at the main kitchen in Southeast Portland. Last week, Malek told the Oregonian that a fire in an RV parked near Salt & Straw’s headquarters shut down power to the location, just a few days after someone pointed a gun at an employee while he was walking to work. Those events — compounded by years of frustrations with crime and trash in the headquarters’ neighborhood — instigated her decision to go public about the potential move, hoping to put pressure on city officials to address the ongoing issues with public safety, drugs, and violence on the streets of Portland. “Seeing it get worse and worse, I don’t know what option I have,” Malek told KEZI last week. https://pdx.eater.com/2022/11/28/23482832/salt-and-straw-leaving-portland-crime-violence KGW: 'I drove to City Hall in tears': Salt & Straw considers moving its headquarters out-of-state due to crime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonF Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 My my my you obviously didnt do your research on riot damages or arrests I notice nermous claims of businesses in high crime areas from some fairly well known chains , but we notice theres no mention of why they are closing brick and mortars in low crime areas as well ??? Never mind doesnt fit your agenda so it must be ignored push that fear must be hell to live so scared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted November 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, DonF said: My my my you obviously didnt do your research on riot damages or arrests Feel free to edify us with documented evidence... or is this another of your usual situations where we're all supposed to believe you just because you say so? 1 hour ago, DonF said: I notice nermous claims of businesses in high crime areas from some fairly well known chains , but we notice theres no mention of why they are closing brick and mortars in low crime areas as well ??? Well known chains? With the exception of Amazon most of these businesses from the last couple of posts are at best regional but most seem to be local small business types, just a simple internet search of the businesses confirms that. There are many reasons for businesses to close down and occasionally we get business owners who blame lack of workers, the pandemic, whatever... but that is not the case for the businesses I posted. Each and every one of them mentions the increased volume of crimes, the absence of safety for customers and employees and the lack of municipal support in addressing increasing instances of crime, the lawlessness and public safety concerns that that often accompanies an increase in the homeless population as their primary reasons for closing down. Yet another epically failed deflection attempt... but don't feel too bad, Keep pushing the denial and perhaps eventually someone will not notice the lack of evidence to back up what's being said, the claims of counter point that for whatever reason never seem to make an appearance in subsequent posts, the misrepresentations, attempt to deflect to unrelated topics, hypocritical charges against others that seems to be a reoccurring standard for the WOKE-progressive mindset... along with the apparent inability to differentiate between fear-mongering and wanting to be well informed as to facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonF Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 of course we also have starbucks As I said doesnt matter you are simply fear mongering we have all seen it before the caravan headed for the border . MS 13 , Antifa Antifa oh my, Black rioters Black rioters Oh my!, Muslims Oh my , teerrorists oH my!!! I mean hell you run the gauntlet on fear , Antifa gonna get ya , Mexicans gonna get ya , Blacks gonna get ya , trans in the bathroom gonna get ya , Muslims gonna get ya , Liberals gonna take your guns so all them others can get ya , China gonna get ya , Now its the poor gonna get ya . Ya got nothing but fear , You spread fear you promote fear and whats the goal of all that fear ? To degrade and keep other people down , to demonize them , to show them as bad people to be defended against, Thats what fear is always been used for and thats exactly what you are promoting it to do . To demonize the poor desperate and homeless rather than address the cause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted November 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 hours ago, DonF said: of course we also have starbucks OK, let's talk about the 16 Starbucks locations who announced they were closing because of the uptick in crime around those locations... On 7/13/2022 at 12:37 AM, Don said: WSJ: Starbucks Closing Some Stores, Citing Safety Concerns in Certain Cafes Coffee chain said it is permanently closing 16 cafes after workers reported drug use by members of the public and crime concerns wsj.com/articles/starbucks-closing-some-stores-citing-safety-concerns That's a national chain and I'm counting that as one company, of course there's the report of Aldi's store closing because of an increase in crime and Amazon temporarily shuttering a location because of "a spate of shootings, carjackings and other violent crimes"... three national chains. That leaves roughly more than 18 local/regional stores which are not national chains who are closing and by their own admission because of the increase in violence, property damage and crime in the areas of those stores. It seems the suggestion any of those stores have decided to close for reasons other than the uptick in criminal activity involving those locations have been soundly refuted by the businesses themselves as well as reports from other reputable sources like the mainstream news networks. The rest of the attempted misdirection and misrepresentation attempting to bring subjects and prejudices never previously mentioned... by anyone but you, is what it is... someone's arrived at an indefensible point with absolutely nothing to substantiate the statements they're making so in an attempt to rule the conversation they start to shout - "RACIST!". So far the only person so far bringing race, social status, and ideology into this discussion has been you with an attempt to degrade and keep other people down , to demonize them , to show them as bad people... has been you - just you - but in the same breath attempt to accuse others of being focused on bigotry Sadly predictable and at this point not only unbelievable because of it's inappropriate overuse... but on the verge of being comically entertaining because by now everyone recognizes shouting racist is the fallback to those who have nothing salient, cogent or relevant to support their... "not quite accurate" talking points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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